s'abit rough sometimes, when one of us calls into Tir and finds no one around. Lets call this a 'venue' for leaving things that you may have discussed had you found another Tir na nOgian around at the time.

I guess this happens to me more often than many of you ... it's all Acc's fault, of course, 'cause he doesn't promote this site *sigh* (ducks for cover).

Sarette has the weather covered; Celt has maximised the limerick from us all; Seamus caters for the absurd. Maybe this is for the general convo stuff ..........

Hello friends,

- my kids all got good mid year reports! .. even Tim!! *smile*
- I am VERY glad it is Friday! and 'month end is over' for June, which for us here in Aus also means the end of the financial year (we all know that headache at work). It's also the last day of an old Tax system for Australia, and the begining of bedlam tomorrow (at least until things settle down) with the implementation of GST.
- I learned this afternoon of the suicide of a friend.
- Thunder and lightening storms were predicted in our weather forecast .... and I have just heard the first of the Thunder .... time for me to go.

love
lace

Hi Lace:

Sure miss chatting with you! Seems like I never get to Tir very often anymore....so much going on now. Glad you and yours are doing well!
Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend. Take good care of yourself; hope we meet up soon.

Hugs!
Raheny

Seamus caters for the absurd????? *LOL*

Hey guys

Miss chatting with you Lacie. Sorry to hear about your friend... It's hot here, I'm ready for the fall...
The big day is July 20th, thats when I take the boards *Quivers just thinking of it*
Keep your fingers cross for me....Back to the books.

Hugz
Briana

I hope all that is going on is gone for you is wonderful, Raheny!! It has been awhile since we met up in Tir.

Seamus .. I thought you would have loved that compliment!!

*marks the 20th of July on her calendar* ... I am sure all the nOgians will be thinking of you then, Briana!! Wow .. things will be different once you pass those exams, huh!!

Dear Canadian nOgians ....

Happy Canada Day !!!!!

love,
lace

Hello to all my 'mericaaaaaaaaan friends of Tir

HAPPY 4TH OF JULY !!!! *party whistles and red, white and blue baloons abounding* Enjoy your holiday!!

love
lace

would have asked -
- where can i find the 'tab's for American Pie and Vincent ..
- How's ya long weekend gone, 'mericaaaaaaans?

love
lace

A BIG THANKS, to Lacie!

My "mericannn" son, Brendan, and his crew will be invading Oz on the 13th. Too bad you're on the West Coast! They've got a fair "Waltzing Mathilda" and "Advance Australia Fair" rehearsed. Course I'm sure you NEVER hear these in the course of the year, there? *G*

Lacie: Tabs for "American Pie" and "Vincent"? (I grew up on Don McLean's very best album. *sigh*) Check your local music shop; someone's bound to have the sheet music for those songs, even a book.

"Starry, starry night/Paints your palette blue and grey/Look out on a summer's day/With eyes that know the darkness in my soul/Shadows on the hills/Sketch the trees and the daffodils/Catch the breeze and the winter chills/In colors on the snowy linen land..." Lovely song, that...

I can only wish I didn't have to work today; nonetheless, it's one of six paid holidays on the Stream calendar, wherein we work eight hours and are paid for 20. (Sounds good, folks? Last time I had this, though, on Memorial Day, it wound up being not more than $20 extra take-home pay on my check. Ah, well...I can always use the extra.) And my parents' poor little dog will be going out of her head when the neighbors decide to set off their fireworks, which I won't mind missing! :)

It is a pity, Jumm Jumm, that your son and his mates couldn't get to 'pop in on' lace!! I am sure we would have had a hoot of a time!! and he could have bought lots of stories home to you about 'lacie's mad house' LMAO

Tell them to be open and ask whatever questions they want of people .. and smile!! People smile back!!

McLean is one of the greats, I agree Cbleidd. It's for my sons. Nice to know the younguns like it too, huh?

(you sing well, Cbleidd )

Hey Lace, how big was that garage of yours? Brendan and his 55 mates will be over in a few days time, with all their instuments!*just kidding*
cheers, Jumm Jumm

*sigh* Would have said:
~Hey! New red, white, and blue pasties with multi-colored tassles...and noone to show them to. (Rogue...WHERE are you?????)
~Still looking for another job; getting depressed about it all and may have to move *shudder*
~Haven't seen you in ages and ages, Lacie..miss chatting with you!!!!!
~Just where has everyone gone???????????????????

*wanders out dejectedly*

Hugs for the lost soul

Hi to Lace..Im back from the land of study. How is it going. Maybe if Jummlette comes to WA he can come visit the wonderful south west too *s*

Sorcha

I tell ya what, sorcha ... if there is 55 of them .. i will take 25, send 25 to you and feed the rest to the sharks *ewg*

tis a long time no chat, mate .. glad to see you back!!

*sucks in a deep breath* ............................ ROOOOOOOOOOGUE!! seems you have been neglecting the Lady's pasties!!! *shame on Rogue!* (or wearing them out, if she needed new ones! *L*)

'Soul ... chin up, girl *hug* .. all will be well, and very soon!

Jumm Jumm .. we are Aussie .. we can handle it!! *L*

Hmmm..."The Starry Night," eh? Lace, I should send ye a tape of "The Starry Night" that I wrote and recorded years ago...mine's much different and much louder than Don's song...LLL Also you can have a chuckle at my vocals and poor attempt at 4-track rock stardom...*L*

Wait a minute...did someone say red,white and blue pasties? With tassels???
Sheesh...I always miss the good stuff...LOL

Thanks, Lace, I actually do sing rather well (when singing along with the radio, that is. *grin* No, seriously, I have a decent voice).

LS, why not shake those pasties to my favorite take on "Yankee Doodle":
Yankee Doodle came to terms,
Writing Martin Buber.
Stuck a fuhrer in a rack
And called it Schickelgruber. >:)
(Spot the reference there if you dare, O my Noggian friends!)

*waits expectantly for the postie to deliver Celt's version* ... come on, Man .. money where ya mouth is *grin*

Lace, for the tabs of those songs. Have you checked Harmony Central. Internet guitar tab site.
Check it out.

*puts hand up* I'd like to hear Celts version too *s*

Slight change of subject, Lacie, the visual arts!.....Urban art from W.A.

Here's the addy Lace, Urban Artists of Western Australia

Urban Art = Graffiti .... you or your young lads may have seen some of this about town! I love the nick-names these artists come up with. It's great Art as long as it isn't on my house, *BHG*!


*BHG=Big Hypocritical Grin!

thanks sorcha!! *whispers to sorcha* .. when it arrives I will let you know and you can come 'round and listen, too!!

Jumm Jumm ... the addy didn't work!!

off on a hot date *wink* byeeeeeeeeeeeee

lacie lacie lacie....hehehe hope your paintin' the town red white and blue this week. Take care girl. Miss you and all the Na nOgs. Hi everyone. *S* anyone can buzz me at dayzysprite@excite.com or icq me 75355079. Miss ye all.
dayzy sprite

Sorry Lacie, must be that browser prob again, I checked the link and it works for me......but here's the addy in long-hand just in case....

http://www.ctl.com.au/zen/graph.htm

cheers, Jumm-jumm

Red White and Blue last night, Dazy .. though the world looked pretty green this morning *LOL*

well .... i would have made anyone that would have listened hear about my tooth ache !!

more than willing to hear aboot yer toothake,eh
How was the date????????????????
(was it in virtual or real time?) *ewg*

Hey Lace
I haven't been in to the chat bit of Tir for some time either and invariably find it empty when I do, too.Must be something to do with this end of the world!
Lace, I'm sorry to hear you lost your friend but pleased other stuff is going well. As for that GST, well we've had it for ages and you do actually get used to it... it's a bugger though.
Bye for now.

Aside to Cbleidd:

"I'm afraid you'd better sit down...
...the President of the United States
IS named Schicklegruber...''

"Ve vas little men with hairy faces and burning cheeks...ve vas running avay from poverty, and intolerance, and de law, and de army."

So, did I spot the reference? LOL

Bravo, Celt, you nailed it! :)
"Good evening, sir, and welcome to the Only Nice Motel in Town..."
"Why, he's no fun, he fell right over!"
"We do it in the road here at Ralph Spoilsport Motors!"
"...Antelope Freeway, one mile...Antelope Freeway, one-half mile...Antelope Freeway, one-quarter mile...Antelope Freeway, one-eighth mile..."
"...My nostrils flared at the smell of his perfume: Pyramid Patchouli. There was only one joker in L.A. sensitive enough to wear that scent...and I had to find out who he was!"

"Do you have a key?"
"nahhh, only a half a ki...had to split it with the sound effects man" ("hey Rocky!")

"Look the sun is going down!" "ah, no, you're all confused...the horizon is moving UP..."

LOL...(to all our confused readers, it's Firesign Theatre's "How Can You Be In Two Places At Once, when You're Not Anywhere At All?"

*stands on the bar stool and waves her arms* .. well, I am just .. ummm .. here *confused look*

"Oh, Nicky...I'll never forgive you." "And I'll never forget you neither, Nancy."
"Rocky Rococo at your cervix."

"Why, that's nothing but a junk prize from the bottom of a Crackerback Jox!" "I'll sell it to you for $5000." "What kind of a chump do you take me for?!" "First class!" "That tarnished piece of tin is WORTHLESS!" "Worthless? Ha ha ha...*cough, cough*...Not to Melanie Haber!"

"Are those my cues?" "Yes, and why don't you get them out of the cellophane before they scorch?"

pulls off his wet mucklucks and holds them to the cellophane to dry

*sratches head* ..... you boys are being silly. *shakes head* .. silly boys.

would have told ya .. off to a big party tonight. A 'going away' party for one of my nieces. *sigh* Trudy is off to Victoria (a promotion) and wont be back, I would think, for years and years. Well, maybe visits. It will be very strange not having her around.

I will miss her a great deal.

NEEDS HELP!!!!!!

Ok, this is a serious question and I'd appreciate serious answers *crosses fingers* *L*

If a woman asks a guy out, does that make him think less of the whole thing than if he chases her?
Reason: someone I've "known" very, very casually for the past 5 years or so just found out I'm newly single and made a passing "you could ask me out to dinner now; I'm an equal opportunity kind of guy" comment. But everything I've read says that if I did, it would mean less to him than if he pursued me, and that if I did he would never truly appreciate me.

HELP!!!! I need honest opinions on this. Guys, please help! Playboys and those who aren't..*G*
Gals..those who have and those who never do.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's been many years since I've dated or that any woman wanted to date me.....besides my lovely, tolerant wife, of course *G*.....but, these are my thoughts, for whatever they are worth.

I find his passing comment about YOU asking HIM out to dinner a little strange, but I'm not sure of the context in which it was said....so, I'll try not read anything into that right now.

Personally, I (and hopefully other guys comfortable with their manliness...*g*) would not mind if someone nice like yourself made the first move. This pursuing nonsense is made out to be more than what it deserves to be sometimes.

Some of the old rules have changed about who does what first. All, I have to do is to look at my 18 year old son to realize that. He and his friends seem much less "uptight" about asking/being asked/being seen with someone, etc. than me and my friends away back when.

If only I were single, LS....*s*......Really, for somebody worth the effort, I would not hesitate if I were you, dear Soul.

With love from your friend,
Seamus McCool

Everyone is individual.
Conventions are simply general guidelines.
In the end we have to make our own decisions. We enjoy the outcome or we suffer the consequences. If we lived our lives out of books, the world would be a boring, repressed place.
Men in general may be conditioned to be 'dominant' (or to appear to be so). Any man who thinks less of a woman for approaching him is not truly alive. He's a slave of convention.

Maybe the fellow is as unsure of the situation as you are. It's not uncommon for people to half-suggest things in a jokey way. It gives them an escape route if the suggestion is out of order.

It's your move. He's kinda/probably/maybe made an opening. I couldn't advise any further, but I suspect that the situation should not be rushed, initially at least. At the same time, don't let it drag on for centuries :)

~ Auntie Accasbel

Talk to your hearts content. If they talk back you might have something

Thanks you guys! (and Auntie Acc! *L*) I'll just see what happens the next time I run into him...and if it seems right, well....*w*

I would like to add my two cents (that's about all it is probably worth). I do agree with Acc,,,he sorta, probably, has made a move towards going out with you and is protecting himself by phrasing it the way he did. But, you don't have to rush into a "date"---slow is usually the best course of action. As a mom of three teenage girls, I tell them to stay in groups---that way, if the guy turns out to be junk, you aren't in a pickle!!! Hope this helps a little--let us know!
everyone's MAMA

I'd be foolish not to agree with Auntie Acc and Mama. 'Tis wise advice, Lost Soul.

ahhhhh .. ask him out ... even just for coffee!! Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Liberation comes with Freedom!! *grin* .. go for it, 'Soul.

You go girl! Ask that man out! Maybe he is unsure if you are ready to date. By telling you that you could ask him out, it leaves the ball in your court. If you are NOT ready to date, he hasn't put himself in a position to be turned down(which is not a great feeling)and if you are ready, just think how flattered he will be !

We expect a report after the date

How can one disagree with Auntie Acc and Mama?
Take it slow, but do GO for it!!!
If he's given you an opening, he won't mind if you ask him out. Just be your naturally sweet self and if it was meant to be, you'll know soon enough...Good luck LS!

Celt

*skips in giggling* He's married...and boy is he gonna pay now! *L*

*takes out "Practicing Flirting" manual and prepares for war*

*runs out laughing maniacially*

For friendly and courteous counsel *sardonic grin*, please call 1-800-GET LOST! Uh...that number is for the married guy LS. *wink* There's a truck of boiled spuds waiting for you to "SPLUD!, SPLUD!" the guy and I will help! BOY IS THIS GUY IN FOR ONE HEC OF A THWACK ATTACK! *running after LS giggling wickedly and maniacally* ~Mrs. PP~

bloody married men!

hey ..i actually got to talk with someone tonight *grin* .. and someone new ... goes by the name 'traveler' .. which, as most of you know is an old regs name, also. Seems a nice person. Please dont make the same mistake i did and assume he/she is OLD trav *L*

Lost Soul....guys like that give us married ones a bad name *g*

Ready....Aim....Thwack away !!!

And after all the perfectly good,wasted advice we gave you. *s*

Boy, am I glad I told you to go slow!!! *G* Glad you found out a few facts before this was a mess!!

So, LostSoul, when do we show up for the lynching? Do we bring our own snacks or will you provide them? Hope his torture is along and painful one....JERK..... He is the type of guy who you find out in the bars every weekend. The always " forget" to mention their wives.... You certainly don't want or need a jerk like that..

Married! MARRIED?! I was scrolling through this message board and that was the one thing I didn't expect! I was going to say, LS, that from my point of view he'd already asked you out - or made it very clear he was up for it. Thank God you found out in time *shudders for LS's almost-foreited honour ;)*
What a wanker, as we say in these parts. And hopefully once all the women in LS's parts find out, that's ALL he'll be *LOL*

WHY THE BLACKGUARD!!!
Picks up a nice piece o' hickory
Nothing like a good piece of hickory...
All right, come out ye varmint! Wanker indeed...LLL

Coming a bit late to this subject, but...from the point of view of one who was painfully shy and extremely self-conscious growing up (and still very reserved even now), I would not mind at all if a woman asked me out. Then again, one must always take into account the one doing the asking.

However, if one is already married and trying to score some extracurricular nookie...then there's somebody who's cruisin' for a bruisin'! Take him down hard, LS!

hmmmm .. *gathers courage and batts her eyelashes in a most becomming fashion*
Cbleidd, if you are not already taken for the course of your life, would you care to share a meal with me?

(aside to the girls .. there! how was that? Now i have to prepare myself for the rejection, though. This is something the blokes have had to be prepared for for all of time. We cant have it both ways.)

Just to say hi to everyone - I haven't been into Tir a lot over the past year, but now I've finally got access to the web at home I'll be in more often. Best wishes to all.
Nettie.

So, Lacie, tell us about your encounter with not-the-traveler-you-thought-he/she-was...
*G*

the previous traveler

well, trav .. he was charming *blush* .. but of course, not nearly as charming as you! *sweet smile*

I chose this particular board to write this plea, for the simple reason that if anyone had been here this is the topic I would have discussed!!! *G* Lacie, do you remember the air fare info that was being discussed a few nights ago? Which airline was giving great deals for people between the ages of 18 and 22??? I can't remember!!!! Anyone is free to answer this plea!!!! *G*

The address is
http://www.airtran.com/deals/
glad you could find a use for it mama

Dear Peter---thank you so much for the info. Say hi to Tinkerbell for me.

love, wendy *G*

Sorry about the long absence...been busy, and on the nights I'm here, haven't had as much inclination to come to Tir (no offense, Acc, just don't always feel up to hitting my favorites). Vis-a-vis your little offer, Lace, were it not for the thousands of miles between us, me here in Memphis and you there in your little corner of Aus, I'd most likely take you up on it. :) I'm not one to refuse dinner and good conversation, ever.

Now see, Ladies ... rejections isn't sooo difficult when it is delivered in such a charming and gentlemanly way.
*bows to Cbleidd*

"moral of the story" - GO FOR IT, GIRLS!!!!

Well, look at like this, then, Lace...it's not precisely a rejection so much as it is a request for a rain check. Which is to say, if I'm ever in your neck of the woods, and the offer still stands, it's a date. :) After all, one never knows when one might find oneself in Australia...

one never knows *smile* ... The offer of a good meal and good conversation (though the conversation usually gets more interesting with the consumption of wine during the meal) is always open.

Find yourself, or loose yourself as the case maybe, in Aus, and I am your lady.

Weekday conversations here in the Inn remind me of comets or huge asteroids.

Most of them miss you by a wide margin.,.
...but occasionally, one of them smacks right into you *g*

*thinks someone should 'blow hormonal teenagers up'!!!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

*wanders in* God, I do hate not running into folk like we use to. And I hate time zones. And I hate my husbands work schedule. And I hate being so far from home, friends & family. I hate Maine winters and it's only October. I hate being on a budget. And I HATE being asked if I have any brothers and sisters, and I never know how to answer since we lost Aaron at age 17 in 1990!!!! *thumping head on desk* and I hate it when I'm in a bad mood.......*sigh* *wanders back out*

Hey Graymyst....I'll trade ya: I'll go spend the winter in Maine since it'll get me closer to my family in NH and MA, and you can spend the winter here in NM. Will that get you closer to your clan?

=)

*leaves a bucket full of hugs for Gray* ... hang in there, kid, and know we are all in the same ark. *s*

***HUGS**** Thanks I feel much better now. Thanks Lostsoul, NM?? Ummm not to be ungrateful, but I'll pass on NM. But, hey we've got plenty of floor here if you ever wanna visit. Base housing is soooo luxurious!! :)
Dragonfly is eating chili and icecubes. Yummy combination huh?? Maybe she's cutting more teeth. WEeeeee.
Well best be cleaning up...Dragonfly is now licking the bowl!!!

Hey, Gray, how about a move to Tennessee, where y'all kin git yew some Southern hospitality? :) (Y'all come back now, y'hear?)
Speaking of moving, I have recently left Memphis for the mid-state region of TN (living about an hour east of Nashville). And they say Samhain is a time of change...and how! I have moved in with my girlfriend of nearly seven months and her two young daughters, switched jobs (goodbye Stream, hello Toshiba)--and that in itself has proven an adventure, as it requires me to drive to Lebanon (here in middle Tennessee, that's "Leb-nun," not to be confused with the Middle Eastern country), about 72 miles one way (but it pays MUCH better than Stream ever did) each day, which means my car will be getting oil changes every month--and will be starting back to school in December (and sometimes wonder if I'm not biting off more than I can chew) to earn my Bachelor's Degree from ITT Technical Institute. Whew!
I guess you can all tell I never do anything halfway, do I? It really is something of an all-or-nothing proposition, what I've laid out for myself for the next year.

*WOW* Sounds like the 'Times they are a-changin' *smile* .. Good Luck to you ... there is an old saying I use with myself and my kids .. "Dreams come in a size too large, so you can grow into them." You will manage all of this, and much more.

Cbleidd - Tennessee??? I grew up in Missouri and that region ain't know for suthern hospitality. It's more known for the Hatfields & McCoys and shine runnun'. Being labled a redneck is one thing..but hillbilly!!! Na thankee.
But I hear tell that Tennessee is aweful purty and I'd love to visit sometime. Besides, everyone gotta see Graceland once in their life huh??
Seriously, I wish you luck, patience and success. Sounds like you bit off a helluva big bite but a lessor person would have taken the easier path. I'm not certain of the author but it's like that poem with the less traveled path...I too would travel that one.

hey .. hang on .. I know some pretty nice Red Necks ... a couple of Arkies *s* AND .. they make damn good 'shine *L*

Well done Lacie..it can be really depressing when you come in and there's no-one around...especially when you've just gotta get something off your chest.....
I've been surfing all afternoon to try and find somewhere else to chat....so as not to out stay my welcome in the Tir...but Jeez everywhere seems dominated by (only slightly) post pubescents with nasty attitudes and little command of the English language OR anyone who wants to see my shaved...something or hard...something!!! Gawd!!!
Golly, I'm not averse to shaved things or hard things in their right place but jeez doesnt anybody read anymore? Where can I find gentle folk like yourselves who have read something (and aren't ashamed to say it) or done something..which can be discussed without parental permission being required....?

This says to me that the Tir is a rare and beautiful thing..(most of the time)..

If anyone can refer me to a chat room where people actually chat I'd love to hear about it...esp if they talk about books/movies/etc...

Thanks for allowing me to share that with you...*S*

Lacie lives *s*
just her puter is sick.

Well Leda, the search for "intelligent life" seems to continue. I've done some roaming and always come home to Tir for good conversation. We can talk seriously or be rowdy and have a good time. Or cry on one another's shoulders. But at the same time, because we're "mature" *giggle* adults, we don't spend all our time hanging in the chat room. In the past the evening hours usually were the busiest, being we all got off work, had dinner and put the kiddies to bed. Sometimes it gets rolling again real late too so our down under friends can join in.

Hmmm lost my train of thought.....*wanders out looking for it*

*stepping over bits of gray(get it?..tee hee)matter strewn about*..er Graymyst is this what you were looking for?? Hate it when that happens....you've got a perfectly good thought process happening and poof....train leaves the station....*S*

Thanks for the thoughtful response....

Alive and well, sorcha *grin* ... and now my puter is well, too!! AND faster!

I was really sorry to have missed Christmas and New Year here in Tir. hmmmm .. maybe we can have a "New Year in July" instead?

the universe...poetry...music...my 'roots'...I don't know..what else do I usually ramble on about? *wanders off into another quiet even'n~